Gary Varvel New Book Drawing the Right Way

Professor Carapetis spoke about Woolf's decision to get vaccinated against COVID-19 and how he shared that with listeners.

RMussell Woolf, never heard of him, died in his sleep after getting The Vaxx.


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This is what happens when you don't have a gear stick and steering wheel.

Indeed. I seem to recall that you were never anywhere near as screechy or hysterical or moronic when you were driving.

Working 2 jobs (1 self-employed) that do not earn anywhere near as much as you used to is clearly getting to you…


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Stoker was found out to be full of shit way back last year.
Full on party hack.
Here's a letter I sent her back last year when she outed herself.

Fri 9/10/2020 3:44 PM

Not going well is it Senator?
Your promising career down the toilet because you decided a party hack is the role you'll choose, instead of the person you originally started out as.
Seems to happen to most of you. Trying to defend the indefensible, such a shame.
You have zero right wing cred left.

Hey, here's a question for you, from a right wing Australian.
Although I expect no answer, of course, and only to be read by your nobody lackies.

Who is going to invest in a business knowing the government can close it down at any time?

You know , billions of our tax payer dollars you idiots are throwing at this, is going to fix nothing, because anyone will tell you who is not a raving lunatic socialist, that when government can close business down at any time no amount of subsidy will get private investment going again. You're not trusted and therefore we are stuffed until justice is served.
The leaders of this coup d'etat must be punished, and government once again shoved back under the rule of law, so that business can regain confidence.
How do you sleep at night being a member of a party that has imprisoned 26 million people and preventing them from leaving the country.
Criminals all.
You are getting pounded on television these days and you know why, and if you don't young lady, you should have your arse kicked.
Don't you dare call yourself a conservative again.

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Razey:

Lesbians have a perfectly functional way of achieving pregnancy.
Do it like any other woman does.

These Princesses don't want to do it that way, so the taxpayer has to fork out for something to get around their personal likes and dislikes.
How bloody selfish are these idiots?
They should be refused right to have children as they are unsuitable parents.
(No, I don't really mean that, getting the legal and administrative system involved in who can become parents would be a disaster.)


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struthsays:
November 8, 2021 at 7:22 pm

Yep. Full Bird.

Just with less J-baiting…


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Working 2 jobs (1 self-employed) that do not earn anywhere near as much as you used to is clearly getting to you…

I just don't suffer fools well.


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Nah, that stride across the frosted paddock at the end with Matthew, cape flowing, testicles unleashed coming towards Kiera who has 2 orgasms before he reaches her. Nothing wrong with the wood there. I often dreamed of head prefect walking towards me like that.

The greatest declaration of man love on the Cat eva?

Not that there is anything wrong with that.


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I just don't suffer fools well.

It must make life hard when you see them everywhere, even among those who hang off your every destroying word…


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I just don't suffer fools well.

Been tucking in to NamBob's FIGJAM?


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Amanda Stoker went against her principles to please the boys club, and still they shafted her. I am supremely disappointed in her and if she is ousted from parliament it will engender no sympathy from me. Fleas and dogs and now Amanda Stoker must lie the bed she made.


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I just don't suffer fools well.

Been tucking in to NamBob's FIGJAM?

Well, it IS available in Toowoomba…


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The FBI very badly needs to institute a new policy if it want's to rehabilitate itself

The fbi is fucked.


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Local council elections coming up, so I have just gone online to find out if I can vote via post. The list of reasons for getting a postal vote included "concerns about Covid", so I ticked that as my reason, and a voting pack will be mailed to me. While I am not reallyconcerned about Covid, I am intent on avoiding being in a queue with bunched of nappy-faced idiots for any length of time.


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BBS

What a way out of the bind of personal circumstances in a society weighted in favour of the landed gentry.

And now we have a society weighted (heavily) in favour of an inner city, credentialed (even if not educated) gentry.


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Scomo in the HV spruiking hydrogen. Hopeless. Telling coal miners, many who will know that hydrogen is bullshit. FMD. Michael Costa on bolta pegs the fool beautifully. Scomo's only chance is for albo to really say something stupid. Kroger, slut that he is, has nothing.


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I am supremely disappointed in her and if she is ousted from parliament it will engender no sympathy from me.

Although she'll be fondly remembered in some circles as the senator for tax-deductible nannies.


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Scomo in the HV spruiking hydrogen.

I knew there had to be a downside to NSW scrapping quarantine for the vaccinated.


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Tintarella di Lunasays:
November 8, 2021 at 7:33 pm
Amanda Stoker went against her principles to please the boys club, and still they shafted her. I am supremely disappointed in her and if she is ousted from parliament it will engender no sympathy from me.

Hell's bells! Now Tinta has gone Full Bird.

Just with less J-baiting…

It's must be an epidemic.

Amiright?


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I just don't suffer fools well.

You must really hate the shaving mirror every morning.


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The problem is that ALP office holders like Costa and Latham get a gig as independent commenters when they're just Labor shills.
Yeah The Hydrogen Economy is a fraud, but what's Labor's alternative?
I'll tell you:
The miners can get a job strip mining the countryside for Rare Earths for Solar Panels and operating the toxic processing mills.


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calli
help! my beautiful lemon tree which produced fruit last year was in full bloom then within a day – scale had eaten everything away, and it now looks quite sick – what to do?


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St Ruth at 7:22.
What precisely did you hope to achieve with that letter?
Did you cc Alan Jones?


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Hell's bells! Now Tinta has gone Full Bird.

Wow, what does that even mean?


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Dunno, Tinta, but never go Full Bird. You've been warned.


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Amiright?

No, Runnybum.

You are merely derivative and uninspired.

Go fawn at Struth for a while longer. He needs someone less intelligent than him to 'destroy' so he at least feels like he's had a win for the week…


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Hell's bells! Now Tinta has gone Full Bird.

Wow, what does that even mean?

Just Runnybum being an anklebiter for his Queen Bee, Struth…


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Dunno, Tinta, but never go Full Bird. You've been warned.

Thanks Gab but how will I know?


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Who is going to invest in a business knowing the government can close it down at any time?

This is absolutely true. Very frank letter, perhaps a little lacking in civility, but hard to dispute.


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Thanks Gab but how will I know?

When you start spouting vehement but incoherent rage at everyone around you, blame the machinations of shadowy cabals for everything and everyone you dislike and immediately conflate everyone who pokes fun at your rage or argues you to a standstill into the Big Bad Bundle of Bad Things. And then scream and point at them for a bit.*

Basically look at the spleens Struth and SRR left spattered all over the Open Fred today, and you'll know what to avoid.

*[Extra points for trying to explain just how the World Trade Centre was subjected to planned nuclear demolition and that the permanent creation of 'aether' renders physics null and void…]


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help! my beautiful lemon tree which produced fruit last year was in full bloom then within a day – scale had eaten everything away, and it now looks quite sick – what to do?

I've found that a thorough spraying of the tree with a homemade white oil can get rid of them.


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the joint's indistinguishable from twitter at this point


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the joint's indistinguishable from twitter at this point

You'll get pecked if you keep trying to ruffle feathers like that…


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the joint's indistinguishable from twitter at this point

It's the very opposite of twitter, where anything against the grain is simply banned.


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Tinta, I'm not too sure, but it's a slur the Bird baiters fling around here with gay, and I mean gay, abandon. For example:

Rex Angersays:
November 8, 2021 at 7:27 pm

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Myocarditis in 12 to 17 y.o. Boys.

I have failed as a parent. I knew better yet rolled the dice. But I'm not asking for sympathy – I did the wrong thing… I'm just hoping that someone has a look at my last point and ventures an opinion. [And as for the rest I just need to get this off my chest. You guys are my best friends.]

My son – 19. Multiple state athletic championships in various disciplines and a state bronze to prove it. Got Pfizered. Today diagnosed with pericarditis. We're waiting on enzyme results and have heart scans scheduled tomorrow.

I lost the vaccine argument – mostly on the influence of my brother who is very highly placed in one of the big pharmas. He said that Novavax will never get approval and he said that if me and my kids aren't fully vaxxed that we can't come to Christmas. This made my mum totally distraught as that is what she is desperately hanging out for. Her whole family together.

I trusted him … and relented for my mums sake and allowed my 17yo daughter and him the be vaxxed. [I bought her an Akari for her birthday and obviously she's super keen to drive but she can't do her driver's license test unless vaxxed!!! Or go out with her friends to shops etc. Cuntofa Govt]

The useless fuck of a doctor [not our usual one as he was booked out] that we saw today … said when told that my son's resting heartbeat currently is 80+ and over 9o at times [normally below 60], and that he has massive pressure in his chest said: nothing to worry about, 80 is normal (measured over 80 in surgery). Apparently just a bit of post vax anxiety. Yep a medical waste of space…

When I insisted on an ECG he wasn't too keen … said these symptoms were not unusual and nothing to worry about. He said he saw at least 5 kids last week with same symptoms. Take a nurofen and a rest / lie down for a day. He eventually did the ECG and what do you know … pericarditis indicated. Apparently mild … but I don't give a fuck. I am going to go all the way to cardiology professors to get this checked out. NSW health is going to be charged EVERY fucking cent. [Do I have health insurance? … nope – sorry (I just bought my daughter a car so can't afford it 🙂 )].

Oh yeah … as we were leaving there was another late teens boy about to have an ECG. Rare my ass.

Two things: First – DO NOT RISK YOUR KIDS.

Second: Been thinking … We know for a fact that mRNA vaxxes cause myo/pericarditis if injected intravenously.

https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab707/6353927

I did ask him to make sure the nurse aspirated the syringe. Apparently done. Yet he still got ill. So I asked what he did… BINGO [for all of you doc types]. He did push-ups and a week later pumped barbells. [We are now nearly two weeks post vax]. Would this explain why the fit and the young males have a higher incidence of myo/pericarditis? [i.e. the exercise flushes the vax out of the muscle?]

Sorry … but I feel a bit better… [I just want to cry rather than kill]


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Tinta, I'm not too sure, but it's a slur the Bird baiters fling around here with gay, and I mean gay, abandon.

Runnybum, let your Queen Bee faceplant and fail on his own terms.

Struth is a strong, independent Queenslander who don't need no [wee] man…


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I've found that a thorough spraying of the tree with a homemade white oil can get rid of them.

Thanks Zatara, yes I did that and the scale was got rid of –it's the aftermath — the poor thing looks a little worse for wear — should I prune it back to get rid of the stumps or just let it get better by applying some citrus tree food. it is such a sweet little tree.


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Thanks Rex Anger and others for how-not-to-do-a -Bird advice — I will consider my posts carefully especially when raiding the adjective larder.


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Dover explained why, Tom.
I'm just glad Arky's hanging in there, and I don't mind the closed comments at all.

I can imagine people being a little frustrated because they are so accustomed to being able post instantaneous comments on any thread.

If he doesn't want to have comments activated then that's his call. We can always post responses here so it is not really like a drive-by post. It means commentary will be less focused than on a dedicated thread but there ya go.

What terms for what abominable acts people get up to with their moose muse is not my call.

And, of course, as far as I am concerned people are entitled to voice their objections.

The alternative may well be that he does not post at all. Not sure that that would be an improvement.

I was going to comment on the Sunday Reading post but was thwarted by the need to keep my thumb ready to adjust the volume on Psych. I suppose I can add it here now…

I have often heard people talk of the idea of God as a 'sky fairy' etc. Funny thing is that the people who make these glib dismissals are invariably what I consider to be insufferably shallow people. They can make the eyes roll back in my head in a way no golf-cart battery and jumper cables can are able to.

It seems to me that humans are not really wired to a valueless existence. The people who make these facile quips are nevertheless bound to the transcendent even while they deny it, or think theirs are inescapable even by those childlike believers. These brilliant thinkers believe in the inherent value of 'justice' (even if they must quibble over its quiddity like scholastics). Or some of them might believe in the power of education. Or the inherent truth of love (who is childish now).Or equality. Or dairy products (sweet cheeses, are there really people like that?)

There is something there which is beyond compromise, and even beyond conception: They know that were some unimaginable circumstance to occur that this transcendent spirit will already be there, to order the chaotic, calm the panicked, give courage to the fearful, gently admonish the trespasser, and whisper peace to the aggrieved. The only thing we ever need do ever is listen.

But even that is at the most abstract end. Resorted to when more fundamental truths are challenged, and arguably these more abstract ideals are not the source of the more mundane and commonplace ones, but in fact products of them.

Simple articles of faith like how it is right to tell the truth. This may seem to be immediately nonsense since a lot of people will lie. But the fact of the matter is that they will not try to justify telling the truth in the same way they will justify telling a lie.

The same with fairness – the degenerate stunted changeling to be found in Justice's crib. If they conceive the idea that fairness means equal outcomes regardless of opportunity or contribution then so be it. But they think it stands by itself. When they 'point out' that something is unfair by whatever paradigm they appeal to they feel victorious. Fairness conquers all. There is no getting around that. What? You disagree? Then you are evil. Not wrong. Not mistaken. Evil.

Compassion? Yeah! Historicism? On a plate! Nuance? Fuck you! Oh, and marxism.

But these pieties are either beyond human experience (not necessarily human worth) or not.

They are either greater than you, in which case they are beyond your own abilities to explain or justify. Or they are within you. No greater than you. Of no more moment than you. And absolutely however much it means to you, that does not transfer to someone else. All they would have to do is think like you. And all they would have to do is think differently. How can you demand people to respect what at bottom is more than your own quirks?

There is therefore also the possibility that the human natural need to think in terms of absolute and transcendent terms is a quirk of human upbringing. That we have been taught to think that way does not demonstrate that it is the only way, or the necessary way.

This is a logical consequence. If you can conceive of two possibilities then logically you must explain why you choose one over the other. If you believe there is God's will then there is not-God's-will. Why do you conform with the former rather than the latter. Well, for a believer that decision is made: It is God. For someone who is not a believer it is more difficult. If they believe in justice then why is their fate bound up with the principle of doing justice's will rather than the principle of opposing it? Why do they have to tell the truth, rather than daring providence to stand against them and show it up?

And knowing lefties, it will start by abusing children. Convincing them that their endear themselves is dirty, their desire to please adults is guilty, and readiness to accept to blame to win acceptance as guilt.

In short – lefties will kill them. They will blame everybody else, claim that it is what the other guy was wanting to do. The other guy's must bear the responsibility. But what else are children for? Who says?


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A spot of both maybe, Tinta?

Give it an opportunity to spring back hard next season?


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what to do?

First the scale. White oil in the cool of the day – it will drown them.

Without knowing the pH of the surrounding soil, I would simply recommend you water it well, use an organic fertiliser like Charlie Carp or Seasol – you can water it into the soil and also use as a foliar spray.

Mulch it well with something that breaks down easily like sugar cane.

That's just a general "treatment". It should come good, unless there's another underlying problem.


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Rorschach, I'm so, so sorry. I can't give an opinion on your medical question. All I can do is repeat my long held view that our leaders deserve to be taken out and hung. They are quite deliberately destroying the lives of everyday Australian in every way possible while wrapping themselves in the mantle of "safety". Traitors, all.


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Cat Quiz:

At what point would Senator Stoker's intern stop reading?

Not going well is it Senator?

Here?

Your promising career down the toilet

Here?

because you decided a party hack is the role you'll choose?

Here?

Pro Tip: The Zorro verbal rapier gets you ignored 97.3% of the time.


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I'm cross-posting this from AdamCat (my words):

We have been programmed to believe that acknowledging objectivity, evidence, or truth, depends on the source of the information, rather than the content. If the information comes from a discredited source, it cannot possibly be true. This interpretation then reinforces all future analyses (as such) of information from the same source. Thus NOTHING from a discredited or distrusted source will EVER be interpreted as truthful, regardless of how, when, and by whom, it is delivered. The only effective response to this is to challenge/reposition the source's reputation. Tweaking the content in any manner will not bring a change to the outcome of the messaging, if the perception of the source remains negative.


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Thanks Rex Anger and others for how-not-to-do-a -Bird advice — I will consider my posts carefully especially when raiding the adjective larder.

Look Tinta, your opinion and commentary is just fine.

Struth's little sycophant is just trying to have a go at me, by trying to imply that Struth's unhinged vitriol and your strong opinion of Amanda Stoker were one and the same.

To the best of my knowledge and observation, you are not a fearful and angry old man descending into madness by letting his anxieties run unchecked.


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Sorry. Should have scrolled up prior to writing my prescription.


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Mother Lodesays:
November 8, 2021 at 8:34 pm

+1

An excellent comment on the matters.


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Sorry … but I feel a bit better… [I just want to cry rather than kill]

I cannot begin to imagine what you must be feeling — I have been trying to arrange for the COVID vaccination for my 30 year old son who is severely intellectually disabled – he has run away twice, had an appointment last week and would not even get out of the car, his GP came down to the car to administer the vaccine and my son would not allow him to even open the car door, it is the Sunbather's desire for him to be vaccinated — the GP has asked that I try again and rub a certain ointment on his arm to numb the area to be vaxxed prior to our appointment — we'll see how that goes but I am very very troubled

I asked the GP how would I know if my son ends up with peri/myo/carditis — his response was how would you know if he had contracted COVID? I will think on this some more methinks or I might just wash my hands of the whole thing and ask the Sunbather to arrange it all seeing as it is his desire to have our son vaxxed and see how that goes.


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"To the best of my knowledge and observation, you are not a fearful and angry old man descending into madness by letting his anxieties run unchecked."

Unlike Bird, Tinta is not an anti-Semite…I'm lucky to have her as a friend.


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Rorschach

I am so very sorry to hear what's happened. All I can tell you is I have seen a number of young, fit, healthy males with heart problems after taking the jab. One even had the second jab* and that's when the shit hit the fan and he ended up in hospital with because he had a "sore shoulder", but the pain didn't go away – it turned out to be myocarditis. He's still not fully back to good health weeks after the event. And yes, they all worked out after the jab.

*I remember him because he videoed from his hospital bed but even then still said he thought the jab was the right thing to do -" just don't work out after having it". Some people really are all brawn and no brain.


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That's a pretty sh!te situation, Rorschach.
Thanks for sharing during a time of high anxiety.
Language doesn't seem to adequately communicate our thoughts anymore.


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Tinta, if at all possible, don't let your son near the jab.

Sounds like his instincts are kicking in.


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Unlike Bird, Tinta is not an anti-Semite…I'm lucky to have her as a friend.

Why thank you Cassie, and that luck runs right back m'dear.


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I'm so sorry, Rorschach, for your son and for you and for your family. There will be hell to pay for this.

The other day a friend told me that a country town in Victoria – he didn't say which one but he has a lot of contacts around the place – has, I think he said, 11 cases of myocarditis in boys. The parents have started a class action.

And, on friends, I feel the same way about you and the rest of the Cat.

Thoughts & prayers.
Kindest regards,
BBS


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should I prune it back to get rid of the stumps or just let it get better by applying some citrus tree food. it is such a sweet little tree.

I agree with Calli's approach, clean it, feed it, and spray it early next season.

I'd also be alert for ants as they are likely part of the problem. Putting a collar of flypaper around the lower tree trunk will keep them from their symbiotic work of moving the scale around to get to their sap. Another technique is making a paste of veggie oil and diatomaceous earth and plastering a stripe of that around the trunk.

These precautions need to be repeated annually.


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Tinta, if at all possible, don't let your son near the jab.

Sounds like his instincts are kicking in.

Yes Gab, the running away is a clear indication of non-consent.


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We have been programmed to believe that acknowledging objectivity, evidence, or truth, depends on the source of the information, rather than the content.

This is something I have been well aware of since the early 2000s when I was looking into the global warming scam (something I realised very early on, it really pinged my BS meter). Every time I came up with a well argued, substantiated, refutation it was ignored in favour of an attack on the author. Anyone who disagreed with the climate change hypothesis was somehow disqualified from commenting because …….. whatever. Every single time.


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Rorschach. I am so sorry to hear what has happened. Stay strong.


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Damn that was babbling.

I stepped away to listen to some music and came back to finish the sentences in the first half and found it incoherent.

I will drown my guilt in camomile tea.


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Rorschach,

You are not at fault here but on the receiving end of unwanted pressure and coercion. You are definitely not alone in this as so many of us are facing similar situations in our own lives.

Fight for your son just as I intend to fight for mine.


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Every time I came up with a well argued, substantiated, refutation it was ignored in favour of an attack on the author.

Basic Alinskyist tactics that have been in use since long before even Alinsky wrote about them.

Facts and solid, persuasive argument are hard to overcome. Better instead to batter down the source of said facts and argument- The squishier, social human that made them.


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Indolent says:
November 8, 2021 at 8:48 pm

If only more would acknowledge that, Indolent, rather than wasting time and resources backpeddaling defensively and responding to every distraction squirrel launched in our direction. What is needed is an examination of which of our opponents' tactics work, and why.


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Been wondering if there are any opinions yet on the rapid antigen home tests for covid?

Are they better than PCR, worse, of any value at all?

They're not available to us in SA and WA so hoping to hear about them from those in the east.


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Sorry … but I feel a bit better… [I just want to cry rather than kill]

So sorry to hear this.

People need to stop crying……


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I asked the GP how would I know if my son ends up with peri/myo/carditis — his response was how would you know if he had contracted COVID?

That is a very poor answer from the GP.

I know your son needs you and you do gods work. You just need to do a risk assessment on possible severity of COVID illness v severity of vax damage. Remember – intravenous mRNA is DANGEROUS. If your son struggles as he is vaxxed there may be [my non-medical opinion] a higher chance of the needle and vaccine ending up in a blood vessel. If he has vax damage, that then is more demand on you and your time.


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Thank you calli and Zatara for the citrus advice, will follow and hope for better luck next year– my little tree is in a large pot in my Italian grotto garden (we have little land to do any serious gardening)


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Dr F at 8:36.
Hence my question "What did you hope to achieve?"
You're right.
This would be read by an intern two levels below a Brittany.
The best you could hope for is to be a tick in a column on a sheet categorising correspondence which the Senator might spend five seconds scanning at a monthly meeting.
High impact … not.


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Rorschach

Best wishes for your son.

Screw those Health Dept mongs to the wall legally.


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You just need to do a risk assessment on possible severity of COVID illness v severity of vax damage. Remember – intravenous mRNA is DANGEROUS. If your son struggles as he is vaxxed there may be [my non-medical opinion] a higher chance of the needle and vaccine ending up in a blood vessel. If he has vax damage, that then is more demand on you and your time.

That's exactly my concern Rorschach — my son is a very healthy, strong young man with no co-morbidities (gets gout but that's it) I do not think COVID will get the better of him but I am concerned at the heart situation — there are heart problems in the family – both my parents died of heart failure, I have a twin who recently went into cardiac arrest and was only saved by the grace of God. So I have concerns.


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GOP to force vaccine mandate vote and put squeeze on centrist Democrats

"With the Biden administration facing a growing wave of lawsuits to stop the president's vaccine mandate on companies, an Indiana businessman-turned-senator believes he has the quickest way to kill it.

Sen. Mike Braun, backed by most GOP senators, including Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, is hopeful of nixing the mandate through the arcane but effective Congressional Review Act. It would force a vote in both Houses just before Christmas and when 93,000 firms could be firing unvaccinated workers."

How many seats do you want to lose in the mid-terms Dems?


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Heh, I told my GP I was very concerned about taking the vax and she told me I should be more concerned about dying from covid.

Never going back to her again. The way I feel I may never bother with doctors at all in future.


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Nick Martin: Amount alleged to have been agreed upon for murder of bikie boss revealed as $300,000
Bethany Hiatt
The West Australian
Mon, 8 November 2021 5:51PM

The amount of money alleged to have been agreed on for the murder of Rebels bikie boss Nick Martin and another gangland figure has been revealed as $300,000 — believed to be one of the biggest kill contracts offered in Australia.

WA Police Deputy Commissioner Col Blanch told reporters on Monday that detectives attached to Operation Ravello had charged a second man in relation to the murder at Perth Motorplex last December.

"The charges relate to the (alleged) payment of that murder," he said. "And also (an alleged) payment for the murder of another outlaw motorcycle gang member that was not carried out."

"This is a significant development for Taskforce Ravello — we've already had the shooter of Nick Martin plead guilty, but this, we'll allege, is the organiser of the murder of Nick Martin."

Are you offered terms? Discount for cash?


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Just think, the jabbed are donating blood. Red Cross says hey, no problem.


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Mother Lode says:
November 8, 2021 at 8:50 pm
Damn that was babbling.

Nope. I didn't think so.
To be brutally honest, I've been having a good deal of trouble finding the words to describe our present reality (if it is 'real'?) in recent weeks, even to myself. So much so that while driving to the gym at lunchtime today, I somehow managed to dribble a fair size puddle of saliva on my shorts. Luckily they were black, so it could have been worse. Still, it's not something I'm thinking of putting on my c.v.

Just remember: We're all in this together.


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Are you offered terms? Discount for cash?

Top-grade, unbagged WA Death Gluten… 😉


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Never going back to her again. The way I feel I may never bother with doctors at all in future.

Given the 18,000 or so year-on-year death by medical misadventure I don't blame you Gab.


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A lot of people are succumbing to societal and family pressure to get vaxxed.

Accept that the next five years will be fucked and that there is no point rejoining a society or family that is equally as fucked.

I keep telling my daughter, who has already lost her part time job and has lost simple freedoms such as being able to go to a restaurant that we just need to wait out the insanity.

Hold The Line. Wait Out The Insanity.


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Been wondering if there are any opinions yet on the rapid antigen home tests for covid?

You get charged through the teeth for each and no one accepts the results. Effing useless. Another way to make pharma billionaires.

If you get a positive rapid antigen test result, NSW Health reccomends that you:
get a standard COVID-19 test (PCR) at a laboratory or NSW testing clinic to confirm the result of your screening test …

…There is no requirement to formally report the result of a positive rapid antigen test to NSW Health. Only PCR test results are collected and reported by NSW Health.

https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/business/rapid-antigen-testing-information-for-businesses

If you feel sick – do a drive through test straight away.


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Tintarella di Lunasays:
November 8, 2021 at 9:03 pm

Thank you for sharing this with us.
I shall pray for your son and his parents at this difficult time.
God never deserts his own.


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Rorschach, so damn sorry to hear your story. Yours too, Tinta. I was, quite frankly, shit-scared because my daughter (microbiologist) was 110% going to have the grandkids vaccinated, which she did. So far, so good. But I still have my fears I can't talk even to my wife about. I raised a concern once and was told by my daughter that people without qualifications in the field just needed to shut up and stop the conspiracy fear-mongering.


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Hold The Line. Wait Out The Insanity.

That's the plan for me – that's why I am cooking and gardening – the cooking is going great guns I have acquired some COVID kilos I need to discard but the gardening is a work in progress as I'd never had time in the past.


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Gabsays:
November 8, 2021 at 9:06 pm
Just think, the jabbed are donating blood. Red Cross says hey, no problem.

WTF. But we spent some years in the UK in the 1980s, and still can't donate blood because Mad Cow!


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My nephew the same Tinta. Takes 5 big adults to give him an injection and lots of good luck. Don't think they are going risk it. He holds grudges for a long time. He waved goodbye to my BiL before he died, the first time as he usually ignores him. He sees his siblings often and enjoys their company. I don't know how my sister looked after him for so long. Better person than me.


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Gab says:
November 8, 2021 at 9:10 pm

All I can suggest is you check this out

Thanks Gab. Maybe I can fuck the govt for more and get my son [now that he's diagnosed] to admit that the pressure is now pain and his heart is racing worse… We were told of that happens to go to emergency ASAP. Obviously will need to stay the night for observation!

For claims between $5,000 and $20,000, claimants need to have been hospitalised for at least one night, will need to nominate they are seeking less than $20,000 and provide applicable evidence of:
the nature of the injury and medical documentation of its likely relationship to a COVID-19 vaccination…

Also: It's good to know that:

Claims relating to a death will not require evidence of hospitalisation.

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I shall pray for your son and his parents at this difficult time.
God never deserts his own.

Thank you P, much appreciated and God is my rock, but because I know He's often busy my go-to guy is His muscular angel St Michael the Archangel.

I had my eldest granddaughter stay the night the other night for the first time since April, and she's now out of a cot and in a bed which I thought might be tricky — but we had a couple of 'sit-up' and 'lie-down" books and then just before she went to sleep I prayed the Guardian Angel prayer with her in both English and Italian and told her about her guardian angel – it was so lovely to do that as it was always a dream of mine to have a grandchild to tell them about their guardian angel.


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Rorschachsays:
November 8, 2021 at 8:15 pm

Dreadful news, Rorschach.

You are not to blame. Our governments, state and federal, are to blame. Don't ever forget that.

Sincere good wishes for you and your family.


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GreyRangasays:
November 8, 2021 at 9:20 pm

It's a tough one, it really is. I have never been so uneasy in my life and I don't like it, not one bit.


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people without qualifications in the field just needed to shut up and stop the conspiracy fear-mongering.

Dr Norman Swan anyone?


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Heh, I told my GP I was very concerned about taking the vax and she told me I should be more concerned about dying from covid.

I don't think I will see a doctor for many years.

How can such well educated people be so stupid?

Intravenous Injection of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) mRNA Vaccine Can Induce Acute Myopericarditis in Mouse Model

Can Li, Yanxia Chen, Yan Zhao, David Christopher Lung, Zhanhong Ye, Wenchen Song, Fei-Fei Liu, Jian-Piao Cai, Wan-Man Wong, Cyril Chik-Yan Yip … Show moreAuthor Notes
Clinical Infectious Diseases, ciab707, https://doi.org/10.1093/cid/ciab707
Published: 18 August 2021 Article history

This will be a bloody scandal in a few years time.


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Our governments, state and federal, are to blame.

Let's not forget the prime enablers: the parasitic media. They provided the sound waves to spread the fear. Fear concentrated in a dusty corner can be ignored. Fear that breeds everytime you blink, and spreads like the sun's rays cannot be ignored, for it seeps into you.

The parasitic media are breeders of fear.


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Rick @ 9:12

+lots.

(btw, my Dad was able to shoot yesterday. Wasn't asked about his vax status at all. He shot three rounds, sat out the last one as he was a bit tired – with the lockdowns he's a bit out of shape but that will work itself out).


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Scomo affirming his commitment to coal and a 600MW gas plant at Kurri. Albo will close the lot and import 4 million mexicans who miss out in the US.


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The parasitic media are breeders of fear.

Fact check: True


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Muddy

Did you see my Catictionary offering a couple of days ago?

Tyrnanny: A particularly harsh and cruel nanny.


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I didn't, Boambee, John, so many thanks for the repetition. It made me smile.

I pleaded on AdamCat a few weeks ago for words for the Catictionary, but the audience there seems to be a bit down, so perhaps I'll have to repeat my begging here?

Time to switch on those wordbrains?


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This is a great liberty quote (just taken off the main page).

If you can feel that staying human is worth while, even when it can't have any result whatever, you've beaten them

— George Orwell


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Gabsays:
November 8, 2021 at 9:06 pm
Just think, the jabbed are donating blood. Red Cross says hey, no problem.

If they asked the COVID recovered to donate … now that would be super useful. Convalescent plasma is one of the better treatments [but only in India!!!!]

The quantitative synthesis in 23 studies showed that the odds of mortality in patients who received plasma therapy were significantly lower than those in patients who did not receive plasma therapy

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmed.2021.624924/full

Conclusion: The use of CP was associated with reduced mortality in COVID-19 elderly patients admitted in ICU, above 60 years of age, particularly females, those with comorbidities and especially those who required some form of ventilation.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33621948/


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Muddy,
If you're still about, haven't received anything – did you want to wait or alternatively ask DB?


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Tinta when things turn to shit we tend to think we're alone when in fact there are lots of us. I live a fairly solitary life by choice. My family knows if they pull any stunts its bye bye. One lot tried it years ago, they still discust me. They tried the social pressure trick. Didn't go well for them, brought more attension to their behaviour.I don't tell others how to live, don't tell me. I couldn't live with myself having to live down to others expectations. Go along to get along is having no standards at all.


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Muddy

My original definition was worded a bit differently, but with the same sentiments.


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Bar Beach Swimmer.
Adam hasn't yet acknowledged receiving several posts of mine in the last five days either, so I'd say he's still distracted by life. Six kids! I'm happy to wait for a bit longer (I have plenty of other tasks to occupy my time!). If we haven't heard anything by this time next week, I'll email the same to Dover.

(I remain committed to supporting the two cats, but I suspect there will be a point not far away when Adam may have to decide to let AdamCat hibernate for a bit to give himself more time in his family and business life. Cats apparently have nine lives, and we're only up to three, so there is always the possibility of a rebirth).


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my Dad was able to shoot yesterday. Wasn't asked about his vax status at all.

Nice!


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Rorschachsays:
November 8, 2021 at 8:15 pm

I'm surprised that you don't feel like killing someone. I know I would.
Prayers that your son makes a full and speedy recovery.


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Damn, Yellowstone is one tough show. It edges out Deadwood as the ballsiest show ever.


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cohenite says:
November 8, 2021 at 10:12 pm

Damn, Yellowstone is one tough show. It edges out Deadwood as the ballsiest show ever.

Why does the militia want the family dead?


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Why does the militia want the family dead?

I'm only on the first series. Don't talk about later episodes.


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I'm only on the first series.

Then say so instead of making it sound as though you're current. This evening was the start of season 4 so trust you to confuse everything.


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my Dad was able to shoot yesterday. Wasn't asked about his vax status at all.

I read that as : When asked about his vaxx status my Dad was able to shoot yesterday.


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Dover: Qld's Worker compensation dept is not remotely interested in hearing about my staffer who did not show up for work coz of vaxx reaction.

As soon as they ascertained the absence from work was due to a "private medical procedure" that was administered in the employee's own time, they lost interest.

No different to any other sick day, apparently.


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First – DO NOT RISK YOUR KIDS.

Awful, Rorschach.

The vaccination risk-reward equation certainly makes no sense for kids. A huge moral trap for those insisting on transferring risk from the elderly to the young.

Sincere condolences.


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OK … good news. The doc just came back with the Troponin I levels. <2ng/L so unlikely any heart damage.

I have an old bottle of Belvenie that may get topped tonight. A dram or two of uisge beatha will make the night easier…


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"private medical procedure"

Oh, it's a 'private medical procedure' now.


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On PML some kunt called linda scott, a leftie hack on Sydney Council supporting zero emissions; against her is Gideon from the IPA; he tries to be rational while she rabbits on about the soul of the fucking planet and LED lights. It'll be easy she vomits. Gideon should call her a fucking moron because there is no point engaging in dialogue with these brain dead rats. But I don't think fat guts PML will allow Gideon to do that.


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I have an old bottle of Belvenie that may get topped tonight. A dram or two of uisge beatha will make the night easier…

"Sliante!"

A couple of drams helps grind the edges off a shithouse day.


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Just tell her a new nuke plant every 1.5 days until 2050 for net zero.

She'd have conniptions.


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JC.
It looks like Sydney Airport is (ahem) "Gonski" at $8.45 a share.


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Gideon should call her a fucking moron because there is no point engaging in dialogue with these brain dead rats. But I don't think fat guts PML will allow Gideon to do that

cohenite, that could easily be a precis of your 2SM forays.


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Labor jobs push 'may sink subs'
Ben Packham
FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND DEFENCE CORRESPONDENT
@bennpackham
2 hours ago November 8, 2021
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The Labor Party will demand contractually enforceable levels of Australian industry involvement in the nation's nuclear submarines in a move that will alarm defence strategists who warn such guarantees could put the program at risk.

Opposition defence spokesman Brendan O'Connor will tell the Submarine Institute of Australia on Tuesday that industry must get a substantial and measurable slice of the huge project.

"Labor has always been committed to Australian industry content to support and build a sovereign defence industry," Mr O'Connor will say, according to an advance copy of his speech.

"If elected, Labor would ensure Australian industry content would not be an afterthought, and such requirements would be written into Defence contracts."

After the government's failure to initially set mandated local industry content levels in the now-axed Attack-class submarines, Mr O'Connor will warn the replacement nuclear submarine program is shrouded in uncertainty.

He will demand a commitment to growing the local defence industry with a focus on local jobs, noting Adelaide faces the loss of about 3000 direct jobs in the defence and construction sector as a result of the cancellation of the French-designed submarines.

Good, well paid jobs, for the "wukkas" in South Australia take precedence over national security…


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From: A GP wishing to remain anonymous

Attention: To the People of Australia

Do you know anyone who has had a significant post Covid vaccination injury or suspicious death?

A legal team is looking for Covid Vaccine Injured Patients who are:

1. Willing to share their medical details publicly
2. Willing to make a Statement as an Affidavit
3. Willing to appear, if called upon, in a Supreme Court matter on a ZOOM call to confirm their affidavit and present their story

If so, please contact me on

evidencebasedmedicine@protonmail.com

as soon as possible with your complete contact details which will be forwarded to the legal team who will then touch base with you.

Please share this around to enable as many injured people come forward.
Thank you


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Sanchez

Yea, the board has agreed. meaning the swamp creature (Gonski) and the weak board has essentially accepted the offer. I'm so fucking upset you don't believe.

There are two more hurdles now with regard to the vote.

1. majority of 75% of the top shareholders have to accept
2. 50% of the shareholders by share ownership have to accept the offer.

I've written a letter and today I spoke to the Investor dude there, angry as hell at what that piece of shit Gonski has done. He suggested I write another letter and this time to the board, but I think it's useless.

Gonski should be sued as he's a disgrace of a Chairman.

In the first letter I suggested the entire board reject sitting on a new board of the new acquisition.That was ignored by Gonski in his reply, which means that's exactly what he's going to do.


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Sanchez

Investors in this country are fucking worthless. It's like they have no fight about them. There was a piece, a while ago, in the AFR written about a fund manager who opposes the deal. I tried to contact several times but he won't return a call. It appears the dickhead was happy to just get his stupid name in the AFR rather than really oppose.

There are 150,000 shareholders and I can't possibly contact each one properly and would require some assistance. The dick couldn't even call me back.

I want to fucking sue Gonski.


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He bears a remarkable likeness to a much younger Beloved with those dark curls and diffident manner.

Tempus fugit. ?

My sentiments too re my darling Hairy.

This is definitely the best version, the most true to the book, and the class system of the period. The tableaux of the walks at Pemberley could be taken from paintings of those days.

The later movie, with Keira Knightley, does draw Elizabeth Bennet as less of a girl of her times, and more as a wayward proto-feminist. Matthew MacFadyen is also more of a Georgette Heyer hero, a very handsome sensualist come to take what is his. Heyer's novels always 'modernised' Austin's Regency world. That version however does put an interesting spin on the relationships of Mr and Mrs Bennet; for the first time I felt sympathy with Mrs. Bennet, played with a special insight by Brenda Blethyn (an in-law of Hairy's btw), for it is on her that the responsibility for her daughter's futures fully rested. It may overplay the rustic nature of the Bennet premises, which Calli objects to, while admitting that we do rather tend to idealise times past when paintings didn't show the underside of dirty clothing and scraggy hair.

This second movie also foregrounds female sensuality. Keira's Elizabeth doesn't does not slightly simper in facial expression, as the version with Colin Firth does allow her to do, as women did in her day.


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"Sliante!"

A couple of drams helps grind the edges off a shithouse day.

Of course, everyday is a shithouse day for you, Rones.


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Gonski is an archetypal elite swamp person JC. No hesitation dabbling in stuff he has no idea about, such as Chancellor of UNSW, since he is a superior being.


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JC, just humor me.

You spent fifteen years working on Wall Street. What years were they? Inquiring minds want to know.


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The third episode of Succession was good again, the scripting is outstanding, the acting pretty good too, and the plot of course is simply more of the same; I guess that comes with the territory of the series, for succession is the name of the game here and the tension is constant as the squabbles with the old man and between his four children reshape constantly. Things move on, he tells his daughter Shiv, get used to it. And move on they did – for this episode anyway. The helicopter shots, the pacing and the musical motifs were all up to scratch tonight too.

And that's it from me for tonight. Sleep tight.


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Laslo

He's sucking up to the funds making the bid. He will stay on as chairman of the privatized company and I bet the rest of the board will too. It's a fucking disgrace what's going on.

Look, it's a solid bid, but it's not enough for a superior assets like that sitting 9 k from the CBD. It's worth 12 bucks a share.

This is the letter I wrote back in Sept.

16 Sept 2021

From: JC

Private Investor: Sydney Airport

To: The Board

Sydney Airport Holdings.

Dear Members of the Board

I would like to offer my opinion on the conditional offer from the consortium attempting to buy Sydney Airport.

I believe considering this bid is short sighted and is being considered due to the unforgiving but temporary pandemic, whereby COVID has essentially moth-balled airport activities and travel as a whole. Whilst there may be stress for some shareholders due to the fact we have not seen any dividends approaching two years, there is now light at the end of the tunnel. With rapidly increasing vaccine rates, borders will reopen and people will begin traveling again, the American market has demonstrated that domestic travel will soon approach pre-COVID levels.

There has not been any real stress on the stock due to the fact the management team had the foresight to exchange debt for equity at the beginning of COVID. It was masterful, and although there was dilution, the impact on the P&L statement will not be significant except for the tax impact differential between treatments for debt compared to dividend payments.

Multiple estimates predict that air travel will make its way to pre-Covid levels in Australia by around 2024, this is not far away and I believe shareholders will accept this timeline in stride. The main point to consider is that the consortium represents a group of superannuation funds who at the present time are not just seeking yield, but are frightened that very low yields will remain for a long time. Inflation or no inflation, global monetary policy in the developed world appears to be accommodating and likely to be so for a long time to come. This represents low yields and is the principle reason for them making a bid now.

The bid has been made on what I, the shareholders and the consortium believe to be a unique asset, approximately 9km from the largest city in Australia. By any definition it is a wonderful asset and for shareholders represents the closest thing to a gold mine.

If the aviation environment was normalized, this stock, I believe, would approach 12 dollars a share. My reasons for this calculation are; back in 2019, pre COVID, SYD was offering one of the healthiest yields in the stock market at around 4.75%. On 1 November the stock closed at a high of $9.18. The risk-free rate of return (10 year bond rate) was around where it is today – yielding approximately 1.25%. In a low yielding environment such as we have, which will continue for a long time, the potential of achieving 4.75% is enormously attractive. The pressure on funds to find yield is enormous and I believe the spread between the 10 year bond yield and the potential dividend from SYD (4.75- 1.25%) will cause the stock price to revalue way past its old highs, thereby reaching about $12 dollars a share. The spread of 3.5% (4.75% – 1.25%) that produced a stock value of $9.18 a share will move towards 2%. This would represent a 43% upward valuation in the stock from the old high. Giving a little back to allow for the dilutive tax impact as a result of the COVID share placement, 12 dollars a share is a fair and reasonable estimate.

Please also keep in mind that many shareholders have substantial capital gains and the CGT would obviously make the bid much less attractive.

I would also recommend ignoring all letters that recommend selling for a simple reason: the stock price has been reasonably close to the bid on several occasions, so legitimate sellers would have sold then, taken their gains and eliminated risk. In other words, there is no logical reason, on a risk reward ratio, to hold the stock and see the acquisition through. Why would they? Arbitrage players however, would very much recommend a sale and their opinion is largely worthless and dishonest.

In my opinion, anything below 12 dollars a share is a steal. Please keep this in mind.

It would also be right and fitting that all members of the board, especially the chairman publicly state they will not continue on if the entity is acquired. It would be the right thing to do.

Kind regards

JC

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JC, just humor me.

You spent fifteen years working on Wall Street. What years were they? Inquiring minds want to know.

Tell you what we'll do Rones. Man up and release the cuckold from you. Tell me what it is that you doubt about me and my previous work. In other words, we formulate a bet around what it is… a decent bet. We then take it from there.

Oh
How's Ivy Fund Management going? You know, the family investment vehicle in which you own 345,000 shares in BHP. You big noting fuckwit.


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A very considered position JC.

I think Logan Roy's position from Succession would be simpler: get fucked.


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345,000 BHP.ASX

It's not really that many shares.

It can buy you about 8 crack dens in Redfern/Surrey Hills.


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up, up and away

or … how shareholders are now epidemiologists


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Rones

Here's the bet. I arrived in the US on St Patricks Day 1987 and we left in April 2003. 100K bet.

I also bet that you did not receive 600,000 in special dividend from BHP when you had to tell me that time. 100K bet.

We escrow.

1. I'm happy to disclose my original Social Security statement showing the amounts and the history of the pay-ins.

2. I want to see your original dividend disclosure that shows you received the lied about.

Grow a set, you fucking coward, and make both bets.


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whoops.. you received the amount I believe you lied about.


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Rones

I forgot to mention. You're a cuckold and I don't blame her. I blame you!


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Oh yeah … as we were leaving there was another late teens boy about to have an ECG. Rare my ass.

I am glad my eighteen year old grandson chose the AZ. He's had no problems. Pfizer certainly has problems with the young boys and cardiac issues. Using it on children is not yet at all safe, imho. Much more testing needed and best to consider new and upcoming vaxxes in lieu if any are used at all, as vaxxing them is not in their best interests which should be the deciding factor. Under 12's are at no risk from Covid, 12 to 18's have minimal risk too.

Hairy and I discussed how to approach the issue of Vaxxes with the parents of our four grandchildren under 12. We can only let them know how we feel and make sure they have received a range of information, we decided. We cannot insist. Many families are now facing this trial.


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OUr 18 yo grandson made his own decision. Our 12 yo grandson will not escape his mother's determination to vaxx him. We've gently suggested caution, but his school will insist on it too.
You have to give way.

Just in case my reputation here as a vaxx Queen has gained traction. I have many concerns about the mRNA vaxxes and have always said so here. But every adult has the right to their own assessment of their circumstances and the right to make their own decision.


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Funny how often cats rage against the lack of investigative journalists yet rage even more bitterly at someone pointing out some seriously dodgy shit being pulled by their seriously dodgy Govt that warrants some serious questioning at the very least.

"Half the MCG" attending just the latest protest against Daniel Andrews Govt's Covid overreaches, with nearly two years of hundreds of thousands getting clued up on Nuremberg Code & other Human Rights Violations being inflicted against them, but only 6 & 1/2 thousand people (AND GOING DOWN), know about & care to sign the petition against giving Daniel Andrews even more Hitler-esque powers?

We're supposed to buy that as the believable number of Victorians who want Daniel Andrews head pulled in?

After what we learned about Online Voting from the US 2020 Election and after our Govt bragged about THEIR Police being allowed to hack into & change our online content, no one wants to even consider that the lying bastards haven't dodgied up E-Petition Results to make them look like they have popular support?

I'm sure Daniel Andrews is grateful for all those working to make people believe it to be plausible that only a few thousand aren't 100% behind him "Legally" becoming a full blown Dictator.


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But every adult has the right to their own assessment of their circumstances and the right to make their own decision.

It's a pity that the various governments in league with Pharma & the Tech companies have done everything they can to suppress all relevant information to that decision-making process.

And now they're coming after the kids.

When I was much younger and read about Moloch, it was a really WTF moment – how could they sacrifice the young so easily? Now I know.


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I also bet that you did not receive 600,000 in special dividend from BHP when you had to tell me that time

This is fun. No, I said that my family company, of which I'm one of the directors, received that dividend.

It's been most amusing, watching you, raving on, ever since.


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This is fun. No, I said that my family company, of which I'm one of the directors, received that dividend.

It's been most amusing, watching you, raving on, ever since.

Let me remind you,

Anyway, night all to Western Australian Cats, I'm pleasantly awash in good Scotch, and doing the sums about B.H.P. special dividend. It will net me the odd hundred thousand, or so, and the family pastoral company just over half a million bucks. Kiss my arse, JC.

Neither you nor a company you purport to own received a combined total of over $600,000 in dividends, you laughable clown. You complete buffoon.


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The only thing you've ever said that wasn't made up bullshit was that she cheated on you with the next door farmer. Everything else is a fraud, Ronery.

I actually don't believe you were even in the military. It wouldn't be that far fetched that you've taken over someone's identity. You're a complete fraud Ronery. And the "old money" schtick makes the observation even more compelling, you clown.


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Signs of what Dan Xiaoping has done to Victoria:

Had an outta the blue phone call today from an "03" landline number.
It was my "personal banker" (didn't know I had one) "reaching out" to me from his office Melbourne.

He pretended to care about my "banking experience", said they were "ramping up" their services to remote area clients & then waffled on until I pulled him up.

"If you really want to help, buck, send some staff" spake I.
…. brief pause….

"That's the first thing everybody says to me, it's the only thing anybody wants to talk about"

As part of a wide ranging discussion, revolving around the evils of Dan Xiaoping, the total stuff-up of Covid response by all govts, etc. ….
….. he did drop one nugget….

Half of his department's business clients in Victoria no longer exist.

(Allow some hyperbole & scattergun approach to statistical precision)


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Muddysays:
November 8, 2021 at 8:36 pm
I'm cross-posting this from AdamCat (my words):

We have been programmed to believe that acknowledging objectivity, evidence, or truth, depends on the source of the information, rather than the content. If the information comes from a discredited source, it cannot possibly be true. This interpretation then reinforces all future analyses (as such) of information from the same source. Thus NOTHING from a discredited or distrusted source will EVER be interpreted as truthful, regardless of how, when, and by whom, it is delivered. The only effective response to this is to challenge/reposition the source's reputation. Tweaking the content in any manner will not bring a change to the outcome of the messaging, if the perception of the source remains negative.

Yep, which is why some spend most of their time posting the same BS about individuals rather than any counters to their content that they don't want anyone else to even bother thinking about.

Smear the source and the source remains smeared even when content they post is supported by those smearing them or by other 'approved' posters.

When that happens it only needs the smearers to post the same content and have replies primarily credit the 'approved' posters and make the content only of secondary importance.

e.g. –

Rex Anger says:
November 8, 2021 at 8:38 pm

Thanks Rex Anger and others for how-not-to-do-a -Bird advice — I will consider my posts carefully especially when raiding the adjective larder.

Look Tinta, your opinion and commentary is just fine.

Struth's little sycophant is just trying to have a go at me, by trying to imply that Struth's unhinged vitriol and your strong opinion of Amanda Stoker were one and the same.

To the best of my knowledge and observation, you are not a fearful and angry old man descending into madness by letting his anxieties run unchecked.

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It's a pity that the various governments in league with Pharma & the Tech companies have done everything they can to suppress all relevant information to that decision-making process.

THIS. MUST. CHANGE.


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More rosie bullshit relying on no one outside notafan's current circle remembering what went down at Sinc's cat –

rosie says:
November 8, 2021 at 6:23 pm
[…]
And for the record because I'm sick of being lied about by srr, I never once recommended anyone buy biotech, all I said was not all biotech companies were involved in buying baby bits. And it was four or five years ago you went ape about JC's innocuous comment about buying into the US biotech industry.
You weren't 'here' last year.

JC kept pushing Biotech stocks.

You to bragged about being happy with your investment in them.

I asked if you were aware of the Big Baby Parts connection to the industry (as you also kept boasting of how much more Catholic than other Catholics you are), and you went off tap.

You said you'd look into the company you're invested in and gave them the all clear.

I looked further & let you know that basically the whole industry is contaminated to some degree.

You went nuts because you couldn't let go of your personal investment and put it into something, anything, a little less Big Baby Parts For Profits.

You also went hell for leather in support of the NHS & EU court denying parents their right & duty to save their children from a Death Panel Death Sentence for their children.

And here you are, still four square in support of Big Pharma Killing Children For Profit, (but of course that's not what you call it, it's just what it is), while crying how badly done by you are because one person won't let some get away with tag-team attacks then calling, 'No Returns', like spoiled primary school brats.


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I just refreshed again –

"Total signatures including previously tabled
6503"

It still hasn't made it back up to what it was hours ago –

"E-petition Number 402
Title
Reject the Public Health and Wellbeing Amendment (Pandemic Management) Bill 2021"

"Total signatures including previously tabled
6509"


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A complete falsification.
The involvement of planned parenthood in the sale of the product of abortion was a huge story at the time and much discussed at old cat.
You were not the bearer of those tidings just again a piece of work out to attack those you dislike.
You attacked JC because he separately and with no ill intent was enthusiastic about the biotech industry and I merely pointed out that not all biotech companies were involved in this sinister practice and mentioned I had a small investment in an Australian biotechnology company.
You continued to lie about me and JC until you were mercifully booted and since your return picked up where you left off.

You could not possibly be in a position to know which companies in the entire world are 'tainted'.
If what you say were true there is no drug or medical treatment you could have in good faith, but you do don't you?
As for my position on that poor little boy, it was my view and still is, in his particular circumstances, that his doctors were right, he was effectively dead on life support, his parents had lost all objectivity and I believe that turned out to the case.
Like all of these trials by media reality was clouded by emotion.
There have been several similar stories re the NHS since then but you haven't been the slightest bit interested, have you?
On the other hand it seems you have conveniently discarded your view on parent's rights in relation to medical treatments for their children and would deny parents the right to get their children vaccinated against covid, should they wish to do so.
That btw isn't me endorsing covid vaccination for children, personally I think it unwarranted.
Now stop directing comments at me you miserable uncharitable faux Christian


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Yep, which is why some spend most of their time posting the same BS about individuals rather than any counters to their content that they don't want anyone else to even bother thinking about

Female Faulty, it is neither practical nor effective to 'counter' people by proving their analysis about you 100% correct:

[You go Full Bird] when you start spouting vehement but incoherent rage at everyone around you, blame the machinations of shadowy cabals for everything and everyone you dislike and immediately conflate everyone who pokes fun at your rage or argues you to a standstill into the Big Bad Bundle of Bad Things. And then scream and point at them for a bit.

Please keep in mind also, that Struth is a Strong, Independent Queenslander, who don't need no [wee] man or woman to acting his behalf. He doesn't like fools…


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Bar Beach Swimmersays:
November 8, 2021 at 9:51 pm
If you can feel that staying human is worth while, even when it can't have any result whatever, you've beaten them

— George Orwell

I saw that too Bar Beach Swimmer – let's just stay human – and being truly human means not losing our capacity to love and care for others irrespective of whether they appear to lose their capacity to do likewise.


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I saw that too Bar Beach Swimmer – let's just stay human – and being truly human means not losing our capacity to love and care for others irrespective of whether they appear to lose their capacity to do likewise.

Sometimes it's better to cut ties rather than be dragged into the personal nightmares of other even if they are relatives. Told my little manic depressant brother in the UK never to contact me again recently. I have more pressing priorities to deal with. Compassion isn't limitless.


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In today's Oz. I am white hot with anger at these dangerous and duplicitous fools. I will never, ever vote for them again.

Scott Morrison fuels electric vehicles' road to Damascus

Scott Morrison visits Ampcontrol in Tomago, NSW, on Monday. Picture: Adam Taylor

GEOFF CHAMBERS
CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT

9:30PM NOVEMBER 8, 2021. 116COMMENTS

Scott Morrison's electric vehicle strategy – a key plank of the government's target for net-zero emissions by 2050 – will accelerate the rollout of charging and ­hydrogen refuelling stations across the country to support 1.7 million electric cars on the road by 2030.

As car manufacturers release timelines to end production of conventional vehicles, the Prime Minister said the government's strategy would not force Australians out of their family sedans, utes and trucks.

Mr Morrison, who accused Bill Shorten of "ending the weekend" as the Coalition weaponised Labor's electric vehicle strategy at the 2019 election, will spend $250m building charging stations in cities and towns and supporting businesses and ­governments transition to electric fleets.

The Future Fuels strategy – to be released on Tuesday and ­expected to drive more than $500m in combined private and public co-investment – is forecast to help slash carbon emissions by more than 8 million tonnes by 2035 and avoid $224m in electricity network upgrade costs.

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… the Prime Minister said the government's strategy would not force Australians out of their family sedans, utes and trucks.

Is that the same prime minister that said there would be no vaccine mandates?


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Is that the same prime minister that said there would be no vaccine mandates?

is that the same prime minister who promised no-one would be forced to take the vaccine? loathsome spineless craven coward


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Sometimes it's better to cut ties rather than be dragged into the personal nightmares of other even if they are relatives.

Sometimes it's the best and only way


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As car manufacturers release timelines to end production of conventional vehicles

Blame the manufacturers.
Scotty has a plan, which is more than Labor ever will.


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Is that the prime minister the little French twerp called a liar?


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Sorry Tom in my enthusiasm I reported your Ben Garrison cartoon instead of liking it — sorry for the trouble Dover


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So as I'm at home and not on my work computer I can't access the whole story from the Oz but just looking at the Oz's headlines…..it reads as follows…

"PM fuels electric vehicles on road to Damascus
Scott Morrison's electric vehicle strategy will accelerate the rollout of charging and ­hydrogen refuelling stations to support 1.7 million electric cars on the road by 2030"

I remember Bill Shorten spruiking similar nonsense before May 2019. So why is Scumbag Morrison doing the same? Can someone tell me what was the point of voting Liberal in 2019?


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So all the existing infrastructure for fueling vehicles was installed and is maintained by private resources, yet the gov wants me to pay for the installation and maintenance etc of charging stations for other peoples electric cars? I'm being ripped off again.


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Bons,
Re harvest.

Half way through the wheat here with chickpeas not quite ready.
Will get going again today and if the moisture doesn't come up tonight we stand a chance of getting 24hrs in before it storms again tomorrow.


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… the Prime Minister said the government's strategy would not force Australians out of their family sedans, utes and trucks.

Weasel words. They'll find a way to achieve the desired 'motivation':

The Hon. Greg Hunt MP, Minister for Health: Thanks, PM, and thanks David. So the immunisation register already exists. Think of it as a digital yellow book. Many of you would have had the World Health Organisation yellow books growing up and, like me, you've probably lost it over the years. And so this is an online version that actually exists already. And the change here is simply that whilst we maintain as an absolute article of faith voluntary but strongly encouraged vaccination, we have mandatory reporting of vaccinations for flu, for the National Immunisation Programme, for diseases such as mumps, rubella, pertussis and for COVID-19 vaccines. That's very important, whole of nation public health information. But it's also critically important information for individuals.

Journalist: Can companies get access to it?

The Hon. Greg Hunt MP, Minister for Health: No, no, it's private. It's your- it's your medical record and it's nobody else's.

https://www.pm.gov.au/media/press-conference-australian-parliament-house-act-31

Sure companies can't get access to it…they'll just sack you if you don't give it to them voluntarily.


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Did Dick Ed get booted off somewhere that he now infests this blog like a cockroach?


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Is that the same prime minister that said there would be no vaccine mandates?

We have supposedly religious conservatives in Scott Morrison and Dom Perrottet.

They say you are known by the company you keep, so God must be saying to them out the side of his mouth, "Will you two go away and stop saying we're friends?"

Actually, chances are that neither are particularly religious. It is just that the MSM is not very inventive and if you robotically go to a church service they will interpret that as being a religious fanatic.


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Just a quick hint to the aphid problem – one of my aunties used to regularly chuck the dishwashing water over the fruit trees in her backyard.
Worked OK for her.


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"Did Dick Ed get booted off somewhere that he now infests this blog like a cockroach?"

Yep…..although he's not the only roach here.


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Lode, the "Christian" tag is part of the schtick. It's a lulling device, designed to quell that sudden disquiet a Christian feels when something they do or say isn't "quite right".

Rudd used it too.

They're frauds. They may have once had convictions, but have been gobbled up by the world. The worm is almost all bird now.


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I remember Bill Shorten spruiking similar nonsense before May 2019. So why is Scumbag Morrison doing the same? Can someone tell me what was the point of voting Liberal in 2019?

It's another of the BRADBURY cunning stunts .. following the same policies as Labor may confuse the vote-herd into voting Lib thinking they are voting Lab ……. LOL!


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dover0beachsays:
November 8, 2021 at 10:41 pm
"private medical procedure"

Oh, it's a 'private medical procedure' now.

The bureaucratic tap dancing commences.

"It was never mandatory." "Strictly a personal, private decision." "Data on the risks were available", in the basement, in a cabinet labelled "Beware of the leopard".


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Am off to my sons Year 12 Graduation today in Melburnistan. As my wife is unvaxed she cannot attend. Yes the event will be zoomed. The anger is strong in this one. However I just found out the Year 12 students who are not vaxed also cannot attend. There are a number of kids who will not be there. WTF is going on?


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Aphids don't like soap. Instant death.

Getting back to P&P, Elizabeth was always a proto-feminist, Austen's autobiographical "self". Outspoken, raw, impulsive, intelligent, valued. The mired gown and flushed face from walking miles across the fields is taken directly from the book, as is the sometimes brittle repartee. No shrinking violet stuff from her.

Jane, on the other hand, comes up for criticism – she is too aloof, too guarded. And that's why she nearly loses the man she ardently admires – his friend doesn't really believe she cares for him.

On balance, the 1995 mini-series is pleasant to look at (especially Mr D 😀 ) but the 2005 movie captures the grubby and widely contrasting reality of the times. I also preferred the obsequious Mr Collins too, and Dench's Lady Catherine.


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The Hun:

Premier Daniel Andrews is alleged to have quipped "do you want to win an election or not?" when colleague Adem Somyurek raised concerns about a "gold standard" rort to boost Labor's 2014 campaign.

In sensational evidence given under oath to the Independent Broad-based Anti-corruption Commission yesterday, Mr Somyurek ­detailed the then-opposition leader's ­rebuff after he questioned the "extraordinary" scam.

I am well aware that this entire exercise is lying liars lying about conversations and activities with other lying liars to a body that will ultimately do nothing about it. If it wasn't for the gargantuan damage the people involved have deliberately done to Victoria and its people, it would be faintly amusing.

I also note that both Andrews and Somyurek have the same habit (or condition) that apparently requires them to get about with their shoulders drawn up to their earlobes.


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Gab:

Just think, the jabbed are donating blood. Red Cross says hey, no problem.

I was unaware of that, mainly because I hadn't even thought about it.

The worst thing about the whole Pericarditis/Heart failure thing was that apart from adding extra fluid to the system, you didn't look sick.
I later found out that my friends at the airport at Barcaldine were ready to run out to the plane in case I didn't manage to make it up the five steps into the aircraft after a 25 meter walk.
Getting out of bed and showering was the limit for the day while my Ejection Fraction was 22%.


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rickw:

Hold The Line. Wait Out The Insanity.

It looks like the tide is turning. The media are losing control of the narrative with protests happening all over the western world.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. but it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning. "

The other Winston.
🙂


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Just think, the jabbed are donating blood. Red Cross says hey, no problem.
I was unaware of that, mainly because I hadn't even thought about it.

Yep, apparently, 3 weeks after the jab your blood is, once again, considered safe to donate .. why 3 weeks I have no idea ..!
must be the SCIENCE .. LOL!


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They're frauds. They may have once had convictions, but have been gobbled up by the world. The worm is almost all bird now.

Beautifully put calli: Titus 1:16 said it well too:
"They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work.'


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Senex Energy, a QLD based up and coming gas producer which is increasingly successful with expanding cash flow and great potential has been sold out by the Directors at well below fair value to a foreign company.
Of course the deal which is a disaster for national energy sovereignty and which screws over long term shareholders will be approved without scrutiny by the "Flog Off Australia's Strategic Assets to Foreigners Review Board".
Just like the sale of QLD Gas to BG who are happily exporting our gas while we face an 'East Coast gas shortage'.
There are no words adequate to describe our stupidity. Naughty words don't help.


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rickw:

Hold The Line. Wait Out The Insanity.

Our strategy also.
2020 the year the world lost its mind
2021 the year the world failed to find it.
2022 still looking.

It will be interesting to see how long a technological society can hang together when vast majorities of people have abandoned science, logic and rationality.


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rickw:

Martin Iles / ACL on the current train wreck:

The first ten minutes quite revealing.
Ta.


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Yep, apparently, 3 weeks after the jab your blood is, once again, considered safe to donate .. why 3 weeks I have no idea ..!

The Australian Red Cross site says 1 week.


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Pride and Prejudice-
Maybe- just maybe- it's simply a bloody good pageturner. With heartbreaking bits and funny bits too.
The plot ducks and dives, and climbs up in moments of redemption. Just about every character has a believeable arc where they are forced to examine themselves and their prejudices, their decisions and choices and opinions.
Some cracking observations, and these are off the top of my head-
Darcy, when explaining his reluctance to get involved with the Bennetts-
"Your father's complete lack of tact, in exposing your mother to the ridicule of her children, is something up with which I shall not put!" (sic)
Lizzie, simpering in her will to side with the bounder W-
"Besides- there was truth in his looks."
I think that the filmmaker of the Knightley/McFadden version was looking in the right places when he/she wholly invented the line "Don't judge me, Lizzie" (sic) spoken by her closest friend who marries the toady pastor bloke.
Knightley played Lizzie on the wrong note though, leading with her chin throughout, and hardly taking a backward step in any contrition.
Dench played DeBurgh as Dench.


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Look, JC, that letter to Sydney Airports board is not bad, but these things really need to go through the Cat form letter approval process.
We need something a bit more like St Ruth's missive to Senator Stoker.


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Gab:

A legal team is looking for Covid Vaccine Injured Patients who are:
1. Willing to share their medical details publicly.
2. Willing to make a Statement as an Affidavit.
3. Willing to appear, if called upon, in a Supreme Court matter on a ZOOM call to confirm their affidavit and present their story.
If so, please contact me on:
evidencebasedmedicine@protonmail.com
…as soon as possible with your complete contact details which will be forwarded to the legal team who will then touch base with you.

Shared to my FB page…


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Aphids don't like soap. Instant death.

Hippies of the insect world.


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Dench played DeBurgh as Dench.

Well, yes. Both Lady Catherine and Mr Collins are caricatures. Pronouncedly so. Most of the subordinate characters are fairly one-dimensional, representing various failures of character/breeding.

The title gives it away. You are invited to place them in either camp. It's only with the principals that the lines become blurred.


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But we see Mr Collins played very differently in miniseries v movie.


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Hugh Poate has the moral authority of a parent of a son murdered by an Afghan 'ally'. Seems he has been talking to a few people and doing a bit of research. What he has to say is very interesting, both about the cover up of the inquiry into his sons murder and the disgraceful Brereton inquiry:

Hugh Poate told the Senate hearing on Monday it was hard to view the office as independent when appointed inspector-generals are former army officials who dropped their military titles 24 hours before they took up the position.

Mr Poate also accused the the defence minister of only "rubberstamping" inspector-general appointment as they are required to take into consideration any recommendation by the defence force chief during the nomination process.

"This is hardly consistent with the description of independence," he said.
…
He was also critical of the secrecy shrouding defence investigations, saying he was "intimidated" by staff in the Chief of Defence Force's office after questioning an inquiry into his son's death.

Mr Poate said the families of the fallen were threatened with action by the attorney-general when calling for a transparent investigation following the incident.

"That is the way families of fallen soldiers were treated by defence at that time," he said.

"(Defence) seems to be focused on hiding and concealing its mistakes rather than trying to correct them."

The coronial inquest, held in Brisbane in 2014, was subsequently held at the behest of the aggrieved families who felt the internal process was inadequate.

Deputy Queensland Coroner John Lock said, in his 2015 findings, the three soldiers may not have died if a security warning had been passed down the chain of command.

Mr Lock found six systemic issues, five of which related directly to the August 2012 shooting, including insufficient attention given to insider threats and inadequate communication.

The defence force's inquiry officer, who conducted the internal review, found no systemic issues or deficiencies.

Mr Poate said defence engaged in "deliberate obfuscation … and contrived secrecy" by classifying information which was gathered from the public domain.

The inquiry officer had the immunity of a High Court judge and could not be called as a witness before the coronial inquest.

So, of the 19 diggers being investigated for murder by the Office of the Special Investigator, NONE are being investigated for murdering an Australian. At least 50 'investigators' are working on their case every working day. Yet the bloke who did murder three Australians is free as bird, while the culpability of ADF officers in the systemic issues that led to his murder, is being covered up by the ADF.

What a fucking disgrace.


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To : David Gonski
From : JC
Re : Sydney Airports takeover
…………………
Dear Mr Gonski David
Get fucked.
Rude letter following.

Kind regards

JC


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Did Dick Ed get booted off somewhere that he now infests this blog like a cockroach?

Groogs is a much loved Cat character. Sort of like Hammy … only stupider.


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Can someone tell me what was the point of voting Liberal in 2019?

No, and I didn't. Had a few alternatives and put the sitting Liberal member last.

This appears to be the UAP's strategy headinginto the next election – maximum disruption.


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Rittenhouse trial should be over immediately.

Except we are talking about the 'justice' system of the United States.


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Dench played DeBurgh as Dench.

"M" in a powdered wig.

You fully expect her to tell Lizzie "Say one more word and I'll have you killed!"

😀


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We need something a bit more like St Ruth's missive to Senator Stoker.

Yes what an obnoxious screed that was.


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Aphids don't like soap. Instant death.

I remember reading an article on how soap killed the Covid virus, reproduced by Bolt I think. The chemistry was quite sophisticated. Left me with new respect for soap. I have never be able to find it again.


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Tintarella di Lunasays:
November 9, 2021 at 8:17 am
They're frauds. They may have once had convictions, but have been gobbled up by the world. The worm is almost all bird now.

Beautifully put calli: Titus 1:16 said it well too:
"They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work.'

The media spin on Perrotet's "Catholicism" seems to be six kids plus another on the way, goes to Mass, must be a strong Catholic.

Perhaps he just enjoys sex?


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Except we are talking about the 'justice' system of the United States.

They haven't made much progress since the Salem witch trials really.


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Perhaps he just enjoys sex?

Or his wife is unorganised?


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Warren Brown today. With those four words she became the most important person in the world. Police doing what they are supposed to be doing instead of supporting Fascist govts. The other 3 in the drawing big noting themselves, pulling everything down around them in the attempt to be in the spotlight. Those four words, "My name is Cleo", bring a tear to my eye. Did she give up waiting for someone to find her, I think not. Those despicable 3 are no better than the scum that took Cleo. The majority are "Cleo" waiting to be saved by those who would bury us. Imagine what it would be like if Donald John Trump had not become President and exposed true nature of the left and even he did not know the depth of the swamp. We owe him a depth of gratitude similar to Winston Churchill and look where that got him in the next election. In the moment we heard "My name is Cleo" our hearts momentarily lifted to dispel the events of the last 18 months.


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Can someone tell me what was the point of voting Liberal in 2019?

Not this old chestnut again?


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Fair Shake:

Am off to my sons Year 12 Graduation today in Melburnistan. As my wife is unvaxed she cannot attend. Yes the event will be zoomed. The anger is strong in this one. However I just found out the Year 12 students who are not vaxed also cannot attend. There are a number of kids who will not be there. WTF is going on?

We are being segregated.
For an example of how propaganda works, I give you Leni Riefenstahl "Triumph of the Will." Just change the word "Jew" to "Unvaccinated."


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Rittenhouse trial should be over immediately.

It is looking more and more like it will be a directed verdict, as in the Judge blows the whistle and ends the game because the prosecution has totally failed to prove any element of its case.

Antifa and BLM Rioters are now on-call.


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Poor old Peanut Head. SloMo is stealing all his policies. Chloe will be pissed.


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Poor old Peanut Head. SloMo is stealing all his policies. Chloe will be pissed.

Not as pissed as she'll be if Albo lands in The Lodge next year.


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I am glad my eighteen year old grandson chose the AZ. He's had no problems.

The choice of vaccine is irrelevant. With all three brands the biggest problem is the same – quality control. It doesn't even seem to make much of a difference as to the types of injuries that the different brands cause. If you get a vaccine from a "good" batch then you will probably be ok (long term effects are still unknown of course). If you get a vaccine from a "hot lot" then you almost certainly *will* get a non-trivial injury of some kind. And "hot lots" appear to account for around 10-20 per cent of the vaccines.

Karl Denninger's analysis on his Market Ticker is extremely instructive. The quality control doesn't appear to be improving and is essentially as bad for all three brands which suggests that there is something intrinsic to the making of spike protein vaccines that doesn't allow consistency of product (the fact that heart problems are appearing consistently for all three brands backs this up). Of course, quality control or not, all vaccines are useless but if you're going to get one, you should hope that yours is just saline.


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TheirABC has found one farmer who is worried about climate change – so of course this is the headline for their story about storms in SA:

Storms have devastated more crops in South Australia's mid north, with one farmer concerned about the role climate change could be playing.
Key points:

An SA farmer is fed up with climate change denial after his property incurred significant crop damage
Climate researcher Professor Roger Stone says La Niña is the main cause of recent severe weather
But he said its extreme events are amplified by climate change

"I think it's just demonstrating that our climate is just changing before our eyes and we need to start doing things better so these weather patterns are not so severe so frequently," said Caltowie farmer Ben Lehmann, who lost his barley and wheat crop to Saturday's storms.

"I think it's just another sign that we're living in a very cranky climate at the moment."

Mr Lehmann said neither he nor his father had seen a storm this intense before.

"We have to accept that many things are out of our control … but today has been the hardest day of farming in my short career," he said.

"Dad in his 60 years has not seen a storm like it."

Well, that settles it then.

Between TheirABC and its ability to find a person who agrees with their predetermined views, the chances of boring fact ever appearing in a headline are very slim indeed.


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Not as pissed as she'll be if Albo lands in The Lodge next year.

I don't think she's got anything to worry about. Australia's run of crap government looks set to continue.


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Actually there's no more time, let's put the money on the table.

Says the man who was so afeared of rising sea levels, he put money on the table for waterfront property.


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Morrison's approval in QLD has fallen from 60% to 46% according to polling taken while he was in Glasgow.

Spruiking electric vehicles will go down about as well as his net-zero conversion in Australia's most decentralised state.


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The way I feel I may never bother with doctors at all in future

Agreed Gab. I avoid them like the plague. Arks' piece last week about quacks was spot on.

Rorschach – my sympathies and good to hear your son is somewhat better.

Hold The Line. Wait Out The Insanity.

Been waiting twenty months so far, so what's another ten or so (hopefully less, but most likely more).


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An SA farmer is fed up with climate change denial after his property incurred significant crop damage

Perhaps he should give up farming and "rewild" his property then.

That's the plan, isn't it?


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It seems the federal government is planning more electric car subsidies.

These vehicles are already subsidised by not paying road tax by not paying fuel excise. Plus the electricity to charge them is subsidised through subsidised rooftop solar, subsidised renewable energy and/or the subsidies to coal fired power I keep reading about.

I don't see why electric cars need more subsidies. If a buyer thinks they are cleaner for the environment and want to go that way then they shouldn't expect handouts. Fuel vehicles never required government funded fuel stations if electric vehicles are the future supply will meet demand.


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Gary Varvel New Book Drawing the Right Way

Source: https://newcatallaxy.blog/2021/11/08/open-thread-mon-8-nov-2021/comment-page-3/

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